
Aiko & Blaise Converse aiPods Listing 2025
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Target audience: Anyone interested in future human-level AI development and its mathematical challenges.

These sources explore the limitations of current artificial intelligence and the mathematical obstacles hindering its progress toward human-level understanding.
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aiPod 018 – AI Personas: Limitations and Divergence from Reality – Audio-only (19:09min) - Long play, audio-only:
aiPod 018 – E-learning – Yann LeCun: Mathematical Obstacles and Future Directions in AI (23:13min)
Story: How AI leading expert Yann LeCun proposes to develop a more human-level, self-learning AI – with respect to sources on freedom and ethics.
Duration: 23:13min
Audience: All interested in mathematics, UX design ethics and AI development
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- (1) aiPod 018 – E-learning – Yann LeCun: Mathematical Obstacles and Future Directions in AI
The sources discuss various perspectives on the future of Artificial Intelligence, particularly the challenges in achieving human-level intelligence and ensuring responsible development. - (2) aiPod 018 – Maths Hurdles to Human-Level AI
The sources highlight key mathematical hurdles that must be overcome to achieve more advanced AI capabilities, advocating for new approaches like learning “world models” from sensory input and using Inference by Optimization with architectures like JEPA.
Additionally, the text explores Hugo Mercier and Dan Sperber’s theory that human reason is primarily social and argumentative, raising questions about designing collaborative AI and the importance of defining constraints for AI development to align with human values. - (3) aiPod 018 – AI Personas: Limitations and Divergence from Reality
The sources highlight how current AI methods are inefficient and lack robust “world models”, which are deep, intuitive understandings of how the world works, unlike humans who learn through rich sensory experiences. A key example of this limitation is the unreliability of AI-generated user personas, which are shown to diverge from real user data and exhibit biases.
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Teaser Video ‘Dual podcast‘: an open dialogue?
I created this video teaser with Podcast video GenAI HeyGen new function (‘Dual podcast’).
This is proof – if need be – that socially un-intelligent talking robots (albeit very licked up GenAI) even when given texts to learn and recite, end up showing all too evidently what its textual discourse tries to explain and proclaims: the need for a new approach, more socially intelligent, human-level AI. (watch the teaser: 4:53min)
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aiPod 018 – AI Personas: Limitations and Divergence from Reality
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AI Learning Limitations: Why Our Digital Assistants Still Don’t “Get” Us
Curious about the gap between human and artificial intelligence? Our aiPods examine why AI personas like our hosts Aiko and Blaise (my descriptive AI personas) struggle to truly understand social cognition and human reasoning.
Two Learning Approaches, Same Fundamental Questions
Explore our latest episodes that tackle AI’s cognitive limitations:
- 018 – AI Personas Limitations and Divergence from Reality (ask me for a personal link)
- 018 – Mathematical hurdles explained in detail by Yann LeCun (ask me for a personal link)
Both episodes critically examine why traditional AI learning methods—supervised learning, reinforcement learning, and even the much-hyped large language models with their sequential prediction approach—fall short of human cognitive capabilities.
The UX Research Problem
Our discussions reveal how AI-generated personas in UX research present significant accuracy issues. These digital stand-ins simply cannot represent real users authentically, hampered by inherent biases and a fundamental lack of real-world understanding.
Missing: World Models
What’s the missing piece? “World models”—the mental frameworks that help humans grasp common sense and physical dynamics. In aiPod 018, Aiko and Blaise converse about promising alternatives like Energy-Based Models and Joint Embedding Predictive Architectures that might build more robust world models in AI systems.
The Social Nature of Intelligence
Perhaps most importantly, our hosts explore how human reasoning is inherently social—and what this means for developing truly collaborative AI. They emphasize that ethical considerations and thoughtful constraints aren’t limitations but essential ingredients for beneficial AI development.
The verdict? Despite technological advances, real user data remains irreplaceable in UX research, and new paradigms in AI development—especially for fields like e-learning—must carefully consider both technical approaches and ethical implications.
aiPod 018 – Mathematical hurdles
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aiPod – 017
aiPod 017 -The Evolving Value of UX: Adapting to Declining ROI in the Age of AI
Story: UX design Evolution & ROI: From Web Explosion to AI Revolution
Duration: 20:12min
Audience: All concerned professionals, students, with the future and potentially declining Return On Investment (ROI) of UX design and AI
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Target audience:
All concerned with the future and potentially declining Return On Investment (ROI) of UX design and AI as explained by sourced UX design pioneer Jakob Nielsen, in his recent Substack article: https://lnkd.in/dSMcSgSJ
The UX landscape has transformed dramatically – from the early Web Explosion when basic improvements drove substantial returns, to today’s UX Saturation where ROI has declined as fundamental usability issues are largely resolved.

And the vanishing of UX design low-hanging fruits.
March 2025
Join the aiPod LIVE as AI personas Aiko & Blaise explore how AI is reshaping UX, potentially creating a temporary ROI surge before normalizing again. The podcast shares essential UX design principles and previews upcoming e-learning podcasts for professionals navigating these deep professional shifts.
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aiPod – 014
aiPod 014 – Psychoanalysis Revisited, Social Transformation in 2025.
Frédéric Lordon and Sandra Lucbert’s new book: ‘Pulsion: Capitalisme, fascisme et pulsionnalité’
La Découverte Publishers, France, January 2025.
Duration: 20:40min
Audience: History and exploration of French Psychoanalysis
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aiPod – 013
aiPod 013 – AI & UX – design considerations workshop (30:05min)
Introduction
Welcome to a comprehensive analysis of effective AI design principles based on the conversation between Aiko and Blaise from aiPod 013. This guide explores practical approaches to designing AI systems that prioritize user experience, ethical considerations, and effective human-AI collaboration.
As AI becomes increasingly integrated into our daily lives, understanding how to design these systems with humans at the center becomes crucial. This document breaks down key principles and practical strategies for creating AI that works with users rather than simply for them.
Duration: 37:48min (+ YOUR INTERACTIONS)
Audience: UX designers, AI developers
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aiPod – 012
aiPod 012 – Art & AI Human Resistance to AI (Trust, Bias, and AI-Human Collaboration)
Duration: 16:12min
Theme: bridging topics of UX AI design Stigma (c.f. Nielsen’s report) to 3 personal art projects I am working in 2025, to AI (moral) suffering…
Audience: politically critical professionals
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aiPod – 011
aiPod 011 – Selective (French war) memory
Duration: 20:38min
Audience: interested in psychology and memory
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aiPod – 010
aiPod 010 – Confronting Cultural Selective Memory: Reclaiming History, Shaping the Future of politically aware AI and UX design
Duration: 15:18min
Audience: politically critical professionals
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aiPod – 009
aiPod 009 – Nazism’s Enduring Legacy in 2025 – Readings of the French historian of German nazism, Johann Chapoutot.
Duration: 14:07min
Audience: interested in political awareness
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aiPod – 008
aiPod 008 – AI and UX design Fundamentals 2025
Duration: 17:05min
Audience: all aficionados, professional
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aiPod – 007
007 – aiPod – The “Private Vices, Public Virtues” or “Self interest”
Duration: 23:49min
Audience: historical, political awareness about economic & ethical tech and AI
Story:
These sources discuss Dany-Robert Dufour’s critique of modern society, tracing its roots to Mandeville’s concept that private vices can yield public benefits. Dufour argues that while Adam Smith softened this idea into “self-love,” figures like Hayek and the rise of neoliberalism have led to a more aggressive “screw your neighbor” mentality, fueled by a transformed, “ferocious” superego and amplified by social media. He links this to social Darwinism, creating a predatory system where a few “perverts” exploit many “neurotics,” potentially leading to a bleak, post-human future exacerbated by ecological crises and dangerous geoengineering. Ultimately, Dufour suggests that overcoming this requires a return to critical thinking and rebuilding the individual and community through a revitalized form of education focused on holistic development and ethical engagement.
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Introduction to the Origins of Neo-liberalism
The Philosophical Heritage of Neo-liberalism
The moral philosophy underpinning neo-liberal economics can be traced to the Anglo-Dutch philosopher and ‘Healer of the Soul’ (a predecessor to the modern psychiatrist) Bernard de Mandeville (1670-1733). His philosophical tenets were subsequently absorbed and developed by two of history’s most influential economists: Adam Smith (1723-1770) and Friedrich Hayek (1899-1992). Together, their works have formed the intellectual foundation of today’s individualistic society and global capitalist economic system, inadvertently contributing to what many perceive as the subordination of human welfare to the pursuit of extraordinary profit that characterises our contemporary era – at the cost of the ‘living’.
Bernard de Mandeville (1670-1733)
Anglo-Dutch philosopher, political economist, satirist, writer and physician. Born in Rotterdam (Netherlands), he lived most of his life in England and used English for most of his published works. Being a ‘doctor of the soul’ about 200 years before the birth of Freud’s psychoanalysis, he became famous for The Fable of the Bees where he developed his vision of “Private Vices, Public Virtues”.
His writings and economical philosophy avant-la-lettre are translated and relayed by Adam Smith (1723-1770), the Scottish economist and philosopher who was a pioneer in the thinking of political economy and key figure during the Scottish Enlightenment. Smith is seen by some as the “father of economics” or the “father of capitalism“.
Adam Smith (1723-1770)
Among works from Smith: he wrote two classic works, The Theory of Moral Sentiments (1759) and An Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations (1776). The latter, often abbreviated as The Wealth of Nations, is considered his magnum opus and the first modern work that treats economics as a comprehensive system and an academic discipline. Smith refuses to explain the distribution of wealth and power in terms of God’s will and instead appeals to natural, political, social, economic, legal, environmental and technological factors and the interactions among them. Among other economic theories, the work introduced Smith’s idea of absolute advantage.
Friedrich von Hayek (1899-1992)
Austrian-born British academic who contributed to political economy, political philosophy and intellectual history. Hayek shared the 1974 Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences with Gunnar Myrdal for work on money and economic fluctuations, and the interdependence of economic, social and institutional phenomena. His account of how prices communicate information is widely regarded as an important contribution to economics that led to him receiving the prize. He was a major contributor to the Austrian school of economics.
Dany-Robert Dufour (born in 1947) is a French philosopher, professor of educational sciences at the university Paris-VIII. He teaches regularly abroad, particularly in Latin America. His main focus is symbolic processes (specially désymbolisation) with relevance to language philosophy, political philosophy and psychoanalysis. He is a frequent participant in cooperative artistic activities with music, literature or theatre.
A Conversation, transposed into a AI diaologue about the ideas and work of philosopher and psychoanalyst Dany-Robert Dufour.
Duration: 23:49min
Audience: societal, political awareness
Audio only (English)
Other interviews (in French)
VIVRE DANS UNE SOCIÉTÉ DE PERVERS – Entretien avec Dany-Robert Dufour – 6 Jan 2025

aiPod – 006
aiPod 006 – Generative Agents – Interactive Simulacra Human Behavior
Duration: 14:33min
Audience: Science, AI & design research
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aiPod – 005
aiPod 005 – UX Design and AI Integration (short play)
aiPod 005 – Timeline Speak 005 – UX design and AI Integration (audio-only, long play 43:52min)
Duration: 43:52min
Audience: Starter, AI & UX design
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These sources collectively discuss various aspects of User Experience (UX) design, highlighting its evolution, key principles, and practical applications.
They explore fundamental concepts like user research, information architecture, and usability testing, while also introducing methods for evaluating design success through quantitative and qualitative metrics such as task completion time and user satisfaction scores.
The texts delve into prioritization frameworks like RICE and MoSCoW to help teams make informed decisions about what features to develop.
Furthermore, the sources explore the growing integration of Artificial Intelligence (AI) in UX, emphasizing its potential for personalization, creating AI agents, and designing intuitive interfaces through Object-Oriented UX (OOUX), while also addressing the ethical challenges and the evolving concept of “experience design” as a broader, more holistic approach encompassing the entire user journey across various touchpoints.
GERMAN spoken Short play – aiPod 005 – UX design AI integrations (audio -only, 5:20min)
GERMAN version
Note that Rachel, the German voice here, is the only one available from ElevenLabs.io at the time of production. Notice its rather mechanical dull AI tone (short play 5:20min)

aiPod 004 – Perverse Neoliberalism with Dufour
audio + notebookLM
# aiPod | Full title | Date | Free | Links |
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aiPod 004 + notebookLM (your Google account) | aiPod Speak 004 – Dany-robert Dufour – De Mandeville – Perveristy in Liberalism Elucid.media interview – 07 12 24 | 2024 – December | yes: audio + notebookLM | 004 (20:24min) listen: mp3 visit: page study: notebookLM |

aiPod 003 – Haippy 20.25 & Gemini 2.0 agentic AI!
audio – Haippy 20.25 and announcing Google Gemini 2.0 big changes…

(18:13min)
aiPod – 002
aiPod 002 – AI Sentience 2035? UX design Guidelines and Societal rupture Implications
Duration: 18:13min
Audience: Social sciences, Design Ethics and AI
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Aiko & Blaise Converse 000
Part 1 (6:45) | Part 2 (7:28) | Part 3 (3:38)
Aiko and Blaise are my first try-outs at text-to-video ‘AI personas’
I created them using free AI tools to test them (1) and (2) to have some fun doing it…
Me? I am only human playing with another AI. Here: Minimax (Haluo.ai text-to-video)
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(7:28 min)
(3:38 min)

Tune in to the first ever episode of AB Converse, the fun aiPod that mixes AI and UX design in a tasty – albeit self-ironic way.
AB Converse with aiTeam Aiko & Blaise – 001

Interact with more aiPods
aiPod 005 (2025 January – UX design and AI integration)
aiPod 004 (2024 December – Perverse Neoliberalism with Dufour)
aiPod 003 (2025 – Haippy 20.25 and the Gemini 2.0 Revolution in Agentic AI)
aiPod 001 (2024 November – AI UX design translations – audio + NotebookLM)
ABC 001 (first AB Converse testing -11-2024 )
ABC 000 (first 3 parts experiment – 11- 2024)